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	<title>Comments on: Space-Based Solar Power Interim Assessment (Release 0.1) is Published!</title>
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	<pubDate>Mon, 12 May 2008 06:39:00 +0000</pubDate>
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		<title>By: Neil Cox</title>
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		<dc:creator>Neil Cox</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Apr 2008 15:48:58 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Hi Hybred: Cost per square meter is likely more important than efficiency for the average homeowner considering their own solar power. The power companies need to encourage do it your self co-generating. At present they require an expensive inverter which is poorly adapted to providing emergency power when the power company is blacked out = not providing power. Co-generator means the power company provides your power while your system needs repair or maintenance. Co-generator also means you can start out tiny and expand your own system, later. For much of the USA, a very steep south facing roof improves the output especially in December. SW facing is better for the power company as it puts energy on the grid during the first part of peak demand when the wholesale price of electricity is high. Perhaps we should mandate (in locales favorable to solar power) new house and building contruction with a large area of steep South or SW facing roof, even though this may not be pleasing to the eye = non symmetrical. Vertical walls are too steep for best results in June when the sun is almost straight up at 1 PM daylight time. Roof over hang will shade the panels.
For SSP we need large production of the type of solar panels we will install in space and watts per kilogram is more important than efficiency. Perhaps price support is the way to pump up production of the type of panels we will need.   Neil</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Hi Hybred: Cost per square meter is likely more important than efficiency for the average homeowner considering their own solar power. The power companies need to encourage do it your self co-generating. At present they require an expensive inverter which is poorly adapted to providing emergency power when the power company is blacked out = not providing power. Co-generator means the power company provides your power while your system needs repair or maintenance. Co-generator also means you can start out tiny and expand your own system, later. For much of the USA, a very steep south facing roof improves the output especially in December. SW facing is better for the power company as it puts energy on the grid during the first part of peak demand when the wholesale price of electricity is high. Perhaps we should mandate (in locales favorable to solar power) new house and building contruction with a large area of steep South or SW facing roof, even though this may not be pleasing to the eye = non symmetrical. Vertical walls are too steep for best results in June when the sun is almost straight up at 1 PM daylight time. Roof over hang will shade the panels.<br />
For SSP we need large production of the type of solar panels we will install in space and watts per kilogram is more important than efficiency. Perhaps price support is the way to pump up production of the type of panels we will need.   Neil</p>
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		<title>By: Hybrid</title>
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		<dc:creator>Hybrid</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 18 Apr 2008 18:07:23 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I love solar power I think over the next few years it's going to be exploding even more... as performance of solar panels goes up people are going to be adopting it everywhere they can... after all it's free energy :) 

Some things I'm looking forward to are more effiecient solar panels, about 5 years from now when I buy my house I want to make sure I can power the entire house and my plugin hybrid all on solar power... I'm also hoping that solar paint will finally be in customers hands... having your entire house generate so much electricity and maybe even being able to sell it back to the grid would be amazing...

BTW here is more great &lt;a href="http://www.aboutmyplanet.com/category/alternative-energy/solar/" rel="nofollow"&gt;Solar Power&lt;/a&gt; information, there is quite a few amazing new solar projects being done right now... it's really great to see so much focus on alternative energy.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I love solar power I think over the next few years it&#8217;s going to be exploding even more&#8230; as performance of solar panels goes up people are going to be adopting it everywhere they can&#8230; after all it&#8217;s free energy <img src='http://s.wordpress.com/wp-includes/images/smilies/icon_smile.gif' alt=':)' class='wp-smiley' /> </p>
<p>Some things I&#8217;m looking forward to are more effiecient solar panels, about 5 years from now when I buy my house I want to make sure I can power the entire house and my plugin hybrid all on solar power&#8230; I&#8217;m also hoping that solar paint will finally be in customers hands&#8230; having your entire house generate so much electricity and maybe even being able to sell it back to the grid would be amazing&#8230;</p>
<p>BTW here is more great <a href="http://www.aboutmyplanet.com/category/alternative-energy/solar/" rel="nofollow">Solar Power</a> information, there is quite a few amazing new solar projects being done right now&#8230; it&#8217;s really great to see so much focus on alternative energy.</p>
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		<title>By: Edawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 08 Jan 2008 23:12:33 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>I am all for acedemic freedom I just think that disruptive polices regarding National Security and Space Exploration should be changed.The Terrestrial Planet Finder is a good example of this(?) And so is Blackstar.Some International laws would help out alought with space development there is to many variables and uncertainty as you realize,traditional economics does not apply to the current space market in any way shape or form.Calculating your business expenses x+y=z with a timetable goes out the window.I wonder if the wild west model will apply to space colonization?I dont think six-shooters do so well in pressurized environments.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>I am all for acedemic freedom I just think that disruptive polices regarding National Security and Space Exploration should be changed.The Terrestrial Planet Finder is a good example of this(?) And so is Blackstar.Some International laws would help out alought with space development there is to many variables and uncertainty as you realize,traditional economics does not apply to the current space market in any way shape or form.Calculating your business expenses x+y=z with a timetable goes out the window.I wonder if the wild west model will apply to space colonization?I dont think six-shooters do so well in pressurized environments.</p>
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		<title>By: Coyote</title>
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		<dc:creator>Coyote</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 22:04:13 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>All,

The technical discussion here is outstanding.  You are raising excellent issues that testing must resolve.

Edawg (64):  I am speaking only as a private citizen here, so please do not misconstrue my comments as "official" by any stretch of the imagination...please extend to me a degree of academic freedom and do not cite me, please.  I speculate that the current administration--and hence the Pentagon--sees great potential in space, but like the Internet, they are hesitant to constrain its natural development with more regulations, laws, and treaties.  That said, it is my opinion, based on numerous discussions with various space lawyers and space entrepreneurs, that the commercial sector would benefit greatly by additional international space laws that clarify many questions in current laws and treaties regarding licensing, liability, indemnity, registration, and various on-orbit and lunar property/mineral rights issues.  Such clarification would create greater certainty and predictability among the investors, bankers, insurers and customers.  That would probably be good.  You mentioned piracy.  We are already experiencing incidents of satellite signal and bandwidth theft.  The Chinese have accused the Falun Gong of such attacks on their satellites, and we tend to believe them.  I'm not sure any laws or treaties will prevent such acts.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>All,</p>
<p>The technical discussion here is outstanding.  You are raising excellent issues that testing must resolve.</p>
<p>Edawg (64):  I am speaking only as a private citizen here, so please do not misconstrue my comments as &#8220;official&#8221; by any stretch of the imagination&#8230;please extend to me a degree of academic freedom and do not cite me, please.  I speculate that the current administration&#8211;and hence the Pentagon&#8211;sees great potential in space, but like the Internet, they are hesitant to constrain its natural development with more regulations, laws, and treaties.  That said, it is my opinion, based on numerous discussions with various space lawyers and space entrepreneurs, that the commercial sector would benefit greatly by additional international space laws that clarify many questions in current laws and treaties regarding licensing, liability, indemnity, registration, and various on-orbit and lunar property/mineral rights issues.  Such clarification would create greater certainty and predictability among the investors, bankers, insurers and customers.  That would probably be good.  You mentioned piracy.  We are already experiencing incidents of satellite signal and bandwidth theft.  The Chinese have accused the Falun Gong of such attacks on their satellites, and we tend to believe them.  I&#8217;m not sure any laws or treaties will prevent such acts.</p>
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		<title>By: Edawg</title>
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		<dc:creator>Edawg</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 05 Jan 2008 18:12:28 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>there needs to be international business regulations for new space companies.Most of the technology needed has National defense written on it in big giant letters.Without regulation you run the risk of having space pirates.I think there needs to be a new UN Outer space Treaty but the Pentagon may not want that.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>there needs to be international business regulations for new space companies.Most of the technology needed has National defense written on it in big giant letters.Without regulation you run the risk of having space pirates.I think there needs to be a new UN Outer space Treaty but the Pentagon may not want that.</p>
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		<title>By: Jim</title>
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		<dc:creator>Jim</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Thu, 03 Jan 2008 03:47:12 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Is it intended or expected that there will be a formal (or informal) response to the Study and its analyses and recommendations by the NSSO or other government organisation?
Recommendation #1 and other elements of the Study point to the need for further study and analysis, including further business case development - is any entity assuming responsibility for undertaking this further work ?
These are the immediate next steps and if we are serious about SBSP they are critical.</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Is it intended or expected that there will be a formal (or informal) response to the Study and its analyses and recommendations by the NSSO or other government organisation?<br />
Recommendation #1 and other elements of the Study point to the need for further study and analysis, including further business case development - is any entity assuming responsibility for undertaking this further work ?<br />
These are the immediate next steps and if we are serious about SBSP they are critical.</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lantz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Lantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Tue, 01 Jan 2008 03:28:17 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andreas #61:

To avoid thinned array curse, you must keep all members of swarm in exact position (assuming 1)).  Why is this better than plane?
I still "think" each element must have next door element to capture or redirect side lobes, but you may be right about moving them along single beam axis.  However, most designs have many more rectennae than transmitters, so that would only be possible from (nearly flat) plane.
I hope you are right!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas #61:</p>
<p>To avoid thinned array curse, you must keep all members of swarm in exact position (assuming 1)).  Why is this better than plane?<br />
I still &#8220;think&#8221; each element must have next door element to capture or redirect side lobes, but you may be right about moving them along single beam axis.  However, most designs have many more rectennae than transmitters, so that would only be possible from (nearly flat) plane.<br />
I hope you are right!</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Sat, 29 Dec 2007 16:30:51 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Dan #60: Actually, I think I can show quite easily that elements do not have to be in a plane, that swarm arrays work efficiently, and that there is no conflict with the thinned array curse. 

Imagine starting with a conventional array, a square grid of, say, 1000x1000 transmitters. Consider a point far away, in the far field, such as the center of the Earth rectenna. The beam is maintained by phasing each transmitter such that complete constructive interference occurs in the target direction. 

We know this works, and is efficient. Now consider two modifications:

1) Swarm array: Move each transmitter randomly along the beam, such that they spread out along the beam to form a three-dimensional swarm. Then, adjust the phase of each to regain complete constructive interference in the target direction. This will not reduce the beam power at the target, because the number of transmitters remains the same. If the power at the target is the same, the only way total transmitted power could be reduced is if the beam were narrower. This, however, cannot happen because it would violate the aperture law, the original beam was already the narrowest possible. Thus, no power is lost by spreading transmitters out along the beam axis.

2) Thinned array: If instead of moving transmitters along the beam, you move them transversally to increase the diameter of the array. Again, the power at the target remains the same, but now the beam becomes narrower, because of the increased aperture. Thus, total beam power is reduced, which is known as the thinned array curse.

From the above I conclude that 1) a swarm array of the right density will perform just as well as a regular array, and 2) this does not conflict with the thinned array curse.

Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Dan #60: Actually, I think I can show quite easily that elements do not have to be in a plane, that swarm arrays work efficiently, and that there is no conflict with the thinned array curse. </p>
<p>Imagine starting with a conventional array, a square grid of, say, 1000&#215;1000 transmitters. Consider a point far away, in the far field, such as the center of the Earth rectenna. The beam is maintained by phasing each transmitter such that complete constructive interference occurs in the target direction. </p>
<p>We know this works, and is efficient. Now consider two modifications:</p>
<p>1) Swarm array: Move each transmitter randomly along the beam, such that they spread out along the beam to form a three-dimensional swarm. Then, adjust the phase of each to regain complete constructive interference in the target direction. This will not reduce the beam power at the target, because the number of transmitters remains the same. If the power at the target is the same, the only way total transmitted power could be reduced is if the beam were narrower. This, however, cannot happen because it would violate the aperture law, the original beam was already the narrowest possible. Thus, no power is lost by spreading transmitters out along the beam axis.</p>
<p>2) Thinned array: If instead of moving transmitters along the beam, you move them transversally to increase the diameter of the array. Again, the power at the target remains the same, but now the beam becomes narrower, because of the increased aperture. Thus, total beam power is reduced, which is known as the thinned array curse.</p>
<p>From the above I conclude that 1) a swarm array of the right density will perform just as well as a regular array, and 2) this does not conflict with the thinned array curse.</p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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		<title>By: Dan Lantz</title>
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		<dc:creator>Dan Lantz</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 20:48:38 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>Andreas #59:

My "gut" feeling is that elements have to be in pretty much a plane, or there will be diffraction edges all thru the volume.  I feel your pain!  Don't give up if you see ANY hope!</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>Andreas #59:</p>
<p>My &#8220;gut&#8221; feeling is that elements have to be in pretty much a plane, or there will be diffraction edges all thru the volume.  I feel your pain!  Don&#8217;t give up if you see ANY hope!</p>
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		<title>By: Andreas</title>
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		<dc:creator>Andreas</dc:creator>
		<pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2007 16:24:04 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description>On 40, 41, 44, thinned array curse:

The thinned array curse is indeed a bummer. But perhaps there is a way out in the form of three dimensional phased arrays. I have not found this treated mathematically, but presumably (and I will make this assumption), the transmitters in a phased array do not all have to be in the same plane, but could be distributed as a three-dimensional cloud. The thinned array curse would require the cross-sectional density along the beam axis to be at least one transmitter per square wavelength. This should be easily achievable, with a sufficiently large array.

I think this is an extremely important opportunity for SSPS, because it would permit building space solar power capacity as a swarm of small, identical spacecraft instead of large, rigid structures. Each craft would essentially consist of one solar power panel coupled to a very simple microwave transmitter. I am thinking around one square meter and a kilowatt, but scale is of course open to adjustment. The transmitters of the swarm would operate in concert as a giant phased array, beaming power with the same efficiency and precision as a very BIG rigid antenna would. The swarm could be kept together with a minimum of propulsion, perhaps achieved by a combination of solar light pressure and "air" resistance on the panels, or by electromagnetic forces between neighboring craft, produced by coils or electrostatic charges.

The individual craft could weigh in at mere kilograms, in principle. They would be real easy to build and launch, and a small swarm could demonstrate all of the concepts, except tight beam focusing, which is mathematically accessible. An initial demonstration could be ridiculously cheap as space projects go. This is important, given the uphill struggle faced by SSPS proposals.

The system would be naturally fault tolerant and easy to maintain by launching replacement units regularly. No human presence or space infrastructure would be needed, and any old launch vehicle could be used, although high volume would still be needed to get a minimally useful capacity up.

The ultimate end-product could be an orbiting ring of billions of solar micro-satellites capable of delivering Gigawatt power beams around the world (and space) on demand, instantly. 

Andreas</description>
		<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p>On 40, 41, 44, thinned array curse:</p>
<p>The thinned array curse is indeed a bummer. But perhaps there is a way out in the form of three dimensional phased arrays. I have not found this treated mathematically, but presumably (and I will make this assumption), the transmitters in a phased array do not all have to be in the same plane, but could be distributed as a three-dimensional cloud. The thinned array curse would require the cross-sectional density along the beam axis to be at least one transmitter per square wavelength. This should be easily achievable, with a sufficiently large array.</p>
<p>I think this is an extremely important opportunity for SSPS, because it would permit building space solar power capacity as a swarm of small, identical spacecraft instead of large, rigid structures. Each craft would essentially consist of one solar power panel coupled to a very simple microwave transmitter. I am thinking around one square meter and a kilowatt, but scale is of course open to adjustment. The transmitters of the swarm would operate in concert as a giant phased array, beaming power with the same efficiency and precision as a very BIG rigid antenna would. The swarm could be kept together with a minimum of propulsion, perhaps achieved by a combination of solar light pressure and &#8220;air&#8221; resistance on the panels, or by electromagnetic forces between neighboring craft, produced by coils or electrostatic charges.</p>
<p>The individual craft could weigh in at mere kilograms, in principle. They would be real easy to build and launch, and a small swarm could demonstrate all of the concepts, except tight beam focusing, which is mathematically accessible. An initial demonstration could be ridiculously cheap as space projects go. This is important, given the uphill struggle faced by SSPS proposals.</p>
<p>The system would be naturally fault tolerant and easy to maintain by launching replacement units regularly. No human presence or space infrastructure would be needed, and any old launch vehicle could be used, although high volume would still be needed to get a minimally useful capacity up.</p>
<p>The ultimate end-product could be an orbiting ring of billions of solar micro-satellites capable of delivering Gigawatt power beams around the world (and space) on demand, instantly. </p>
<p>Andreas</p>
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